Comments on: Pitfalls of Thinking: Confirmation Bias (1/2) http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12 Find what you need Sat, 25 Dec 2010 23:40:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: mrkurt13 http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12/comment-page-1#comment-3303 mrkurt13 Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:49:59 +0000 http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12#comment-3303 <b>I guess in really ...</b> <br> I guess in really large studies. The placebo effect has been shown to depend heavily on the health care providers. A trial at a hospital with excellent bedside manner will have different results than a factory style hospital. Maybe this effect averages out if you uses 1000's of doctors, but variable beside manner/patient care is like introducing another 'drug' into trials. I guess in really …
I guess in really large studies. The placebo effect has been shown to depend heavily on the health care providers. A trial at a hospital with excellent bedside manner will have different results than a factory style hospital. Maybe this effect averages out if you uses 1000′s of doctors, but variable beside manner/patient care is like introducing another ‘drug’ into trials.

]]> By: Ezplain http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12/comment-page-1#comment-3304 Ezplain Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:49:59 +0000 http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12#comment-3304 <b>dude this is some ...</b> <br> dude this is some interesting psychological analysis. In english we were talking about other nations and i wrote an essay on the illusion of objectivity and knowledge which alters our thinking so prevalently anyone wants to read it just ask me its along the same lines of this video. Something akin to extreme chavanistic nationlism. dude this is some …
dude this is some interesting psychological analysis. In english we were talking about other nations and i wrote an essay on the illusion of objectivity and knowledge which alters our thinking so prevalently anyone wants to read it just ask me its along the same lines of this video. Something akin to extreme chavanistic nationlism.

]]> By: ndjarnag http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12/comment-page-1#comment-3305 ndjarnag Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:49:59 +0000 http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12#comment-3305 <b>Often I see a video ...</b> <br> Often I see a video called "the pH diet" which claims to cure cancer. It's nothing but an infomercial for folks dealing with cancer. It's discusting. So this COncOrdance video is a welcome response. Often I see a video …
Often I see a video called “the pH diet” which claims to cure cancer. It’s nothing but an infomercial for folks dealing with cancer. It’s discusting.

So this COncOrdance video is a welcome response.

]]> By: EebstertheGreat http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12/comment-page-1#comment-3300 EebstertheGreat Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:49:58 +0000 http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12#comment-3300 <b>Probably not, since ...</b> <br> Probably not, since AA claims to be secular. Apparently they get around the fact that they clearly demand people put faith in a higher power by claiming that this doesn't literally have to be a deity, but could be any object (even, say, a rock), as long as the alcoholic can symbolically put his trust in it. This is absurd, because there is no reason to symbolically put trust in a rock unless that rock is a symbol of a deity, but they don't seem to care. Probably not, since …
Probably not, since AA claims to be secular. Apparently they get around the fact that they clearly demand people put faith in a higher power by claiming that this doesn’t literally have to be a deity, but could be any object (even, say, a rock), as long as the alcoholic can symbolically put his trust in it. This is absurd, because there is no reason to symbolically put trust in a rock unless that rock is a symbol of a deity, but they don’t seem to care.

]]> By: borrofburi http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12/comment-page-1#comment-3301 borrofburi Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:49:58 +0000 http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12#comment-3301 <b>I wonder if an ...</b> <br> I wonder if an atheist could object to alcoholics anonymous meetings on the basis of religious freedom.... I wonder if an …
I wonder if an atheist could object to alcoholics anonymous meetings on the basis of religious freedom….

]]> By: EebstertheGreat http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12/comment-page-1#comment-3302 EebstertheGreat Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:49:58 +0000 http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12#comment-3302 <b>Yeah, this bothers ...</b> <br> Yeah, this bothers me, too. I first started thinking about this problem when I watched the Penn and Teller's Bullshit episode on it (watch?v=8tPNgHrIkgo). Obviously, take what they say with a grain of salt (or a mound, in the case of, e.g., climate change), but this episode pretty much checks out. What is also problematic is that AA forces you to worship a deity, which clearly doesn't respect the rights of atheists. Yeah, this bothers …
Yeah, this bothers me, too. I first started thinking about this problem when I watched the Penn and Teller’s Bullshit episode on it (watch?v=8tPNgHrIkgo). Obviously, take what they say with a grain of salt (or a mound, in the case of, e.g., climate change), but this episode pretty much checks out.

What is also problematic is that AA forces you to worship a deity, which clearly doesn’t respect the rights of atheists.

]]> By: Deathinmusic http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12/comment-page-1#comment-3296 Deathinmusic Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:49:57 +0000 http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12#comment-3296 <b>This is great stuff ...</b> <br> This is great stuff, but there is too much additional information in the video, which makes it necessary to keep pausing in order to get all of it. This is great stuff …
This is great stuff, but there is too much additional information in the video, which makes it necessary to keep pausing in order to get all of it.

]]> By: Cyrathil http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12/comment-page-1#comment-3297 Cyrathil Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:49:57 +0000 http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12#comment-3297 <b>They mandate you ...</b> <br> They mandate you call it a higher-power, and might even force you into calling it a supernatural one at that. But it doesn't matter, my mostly grain-based squares surrounding dairy product is still a cheese sandwich. As long as you know of one of the secular alternatives, it shouldn't be a problem. They might not like it, but that really shouldn't be their decision. They might be able to mandate I get help, but I would think them advocating specific organizations would be pushing the rules abit They mandate you …
They mandate you call it a higher-power, and might even force you into calling it a supernatural one at that. But it doesn’t matter, my mostly grain-based squares surrounding dairy product is still a cheese sandwich.

As long as you know of one of the secular alternatives, it shouldn’t be a problem. They might not like it, but that really shouldn’t be their decision. They might be able to mandate I get help, but I would think them advocating specific organizations would be pushing the rules abit

]]> By: EebstertheGreat http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12/comment-page-1#comment-3298 EebstertheGreat Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:49:57 +0000 http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12#comment-3298 <b>Well they don't ...</b> <br> Well they don't mandate you call it "god," and unfortunately the courts do not have a good track record of defending atheists' rights in America, so I have a tough time believing they will avoid mandating AA for religious reasons. Actually, the judge probably doesn't care what group you go to, as long as that group is reasonably well-known and legitimate. There aren't a lot of alternatives to AA, but there are some, so maybe you could convince the judge to let you do one of those instead. Well they don’t …
Well they don’t mandate you call it “god,” and unfortunately the courts do not have a good track record of defending atheists’ rights in America, so I have a tough time believing they will avoid mandating AA for religious reasons.

Actually, the judge probably doesn’t care what group you go to, as long as that group is reasonably well-known and legitimate. There aren’t a lot of alternatives to AA, but there are some, so maybe you could convince the judge to let you do one of those instead.

]]> By: borrofburi http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12/comment-page-1#comment-3299 borrofburi Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:49:57 +0000 http://www.information-search.com/search-information/pitfalls-of-thinking-confirmation-bias-12#comment-3299 <b>I don't think it ...</b> <br> I don't think it matters, demanding people put faith in a higher power violates the religious stance of a naturalist (even if the religious stance is none at all), *especially* if they mandate calling that higher power "god". I don’t think it …
I don’t think it matters, demanding people put faith in a higher power violates the religious stance of a naturalist (even if the religious stance is none at all), *especially* if they mandate calling that higher power “god”.

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